I was just reading an email from the ProMED medical mailing list I'm on. It was a monthly report on Avian flu outbreaks in Eastern Asia. Part of the report reads:

Source of outbreaks:
- introduction of new animals/animal products;
- illegal movement of animals.

Control measures

A. Undertaken:
- quarantine;
- movement control inside the country;
- disinfection of infected premises/establishment(s).

B. To be undertaken:
- partial stamping out;
- vaccination.

Treatment of affected animals: no.

I read in the Wall Street Journal in the "We think this is sort of funny" section of the front page the other day, abut some guy who had invented a mass chicken slaughtering machine that picked up chickens by their feet and dragged their heads through electrified water. The machine could kill tens of thousands of chickens and was in high demand in countries where slaughtering these chickens has become an enormous task necessary to try to contain the outbreak.

Then I remembered reading that scientists are really worried that this flu is going to mutate into a version that spreads between humans as rapidly as it is spreading between birds.

Start nightmare:

Source of outbreaks:
- introduction of new people;
- illegal movement of people.

Control measures

A. Undertaken:
- quarantine;
- movement control inside the country;
- disinfection of infected premises/establishment(s).

B. To be undertaken:
- partial stamping out;
- vaccination.

Treatment of affected people: no.

Scary thought. Sorry.

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That is what started happening in the US in a different way, don't you think?

Control measures

A. Undertaken:
- quarantine; = US-VISIT and detention at the airport
- movement control inside the country; = Real ID Act
- disinfection of infected premises/establishment(s). =INS raid

B. To be undertaken:
- partial stamping out; = Guantanamo
- vaccination. = Creationism teaching in education

sorry for fueling more scariness.

Excellent post. FYI, dragging shackled chickens through electrified water is common practice at industrial slaughterhouses. Supposedly it stuns them before they're dipped in scalding water to have their feathers torn out, but it often doesn't work, and may just cause a temporary paralysis.

For more info on how animals are "stamped out," check out this piece by Karen Davis, PhD, President of United Poultry Concerns: www.upc-online.org/slaughter/22805karenflu.htm -- oh, and here's a possible solution to all of this: www.veganoutreach.org/whyvegan/

Thats cos theyve done enough messing around at their own end to know what happens and they know whats going on.However SARS was so much hype.
A million people die from malaria around the world every year.Maybe these sort of diseases are a population control.
Who knows.

Joi,

When the Avian flu does finally mutate into a form that can infect humans, I hope that same inventor creates a larger version of the chicken-slaughtering machine, so we can just grab people by their ankles and drag them through electrified water. Then, I hope a used one goes up on eBay for cheap: just think of the possibilities.

:-) :-) :-)

Joi...

Hello from Madrid.

I am not veterinarian but I presume that there are reasons to avoid treating affected chicken:
- The quick vital cycle which don't allow chickens to recover. Which means their lifes are short and the treatment will only make them gain weeks or a couple of months if lucky.
- The fact that anyone would eat an infected chicken.
Would you? I won't for sure.

Things are different with another mammals, humans included, with longer vital cycles.

Beside, we won't not able to find a vaccine until we have a virus that infect people.

Best,

Although I have no eschatological world view, you could see avian flu as a kind of payback time of nature against the cruelty that's been inflicted upon it by factory farming.

Read more about the Revenge of the Birds:
http://dannyfriedmann.nl/blog/2004Jan28_1

There's one more item that I think you should insert in the "Source of Outbreaks" procedure. Frankly, it is not PC to discuss this item, but it must be dealt with head on for the sake of human lives and uncompromised science.

Ignorant and profit driven Chinese farmers are creating a viral monster that could wipe out millions. By treating sick birds with antibiotics meant for *humans*, the virus is rapidly mutating and assimilating at an accelerated rate. This greed and myopism is very offensive because of what's at stake. Chinese farmers are way too friendly and cavalier with their animals, in general. I don't want to pay for that stupidity with my life.

Does anyone know if Asian governments are seeking to regulate these farming/treatment practices? Or is "too be rich is glorious" still the overriding party line?

Mike B: The Flu is a virus. Antibiotics would have no affect on it. In general feeding the birds antibiotics is bad because they evolve anti-biotic resistant bacteria which can be passed off to humans as superbugs, but I don't see how antibiotics would affect the flu at all since antibiotics have no affect on viruses.

Just some more global plantation Jew monopoly media Hymiewood entertainment hype and hysteria.


"Start nightmare:

Source of outbreaks:
- introduction of new people;
- illegal movement of people.

Control measures

A. Undertaken:
- quarantine;
- movement control inside the country;
- disinfection of infected premises/establishment(s).

B. To be undertaken:
- partial stamping out;
- vaccination."

The heavily armed global plantation police state and their international Jew monopoly media Hymiewood entertainment combine facilitators (Reuters, AP, AFP, UPI...) will use any reason to further impede immutable [def. Not subject to change or variation in form or quality or nature] liberty and freedoms, manipulate, exploit, and tyrannize the sheople.

This is very scary stuff. I've heard of estimated deaths from the feared mutation of H5N1 virus is as high as 30% of the world population. Most of the deaths are expected to occur in developing countries.

Alex:

Mike B: The Flu is a virus. Antibiotics would have no affect on it.

You're absolutely right. Sorry about that. Duh. I meant to say "anti-viral" drug. The name of it is "Amantadine", I believe.

All of that is indeed scary and the metaphor with US policies is funny (and scary because with a certain truth).

Another way of seeing it: What are we ready to change individually? I had done something not very significant, and very naive, a few months ago on my weblog. I was asking

[[[
For english readers
I would like to know for all of you who have Weblogs if you could answer a simple question? List 5 things in your consumer life that you are ready to give up.

Give yours and add to your post the following code to track the answers:

<a href="http://technorati.com/tag/utopia" rel="tag">Utopia</a>
]]] - http://www.la-grange.net/2005/03/11.html#utopia

Because all of these things are in part the results of our consumer behaviors. Developing countries are craving to have the same mode of life than western countries (China first). The statistics show that it will be very difficult, if not impossible to sustain this growth of demand in the world.

Helping the World and Africa is it about helping them to reach our way of living (certainly it's part of the solution: water, medical, etc.) but is it also being ready to give up on many things.

Should the industrialized countries should slow down, give up on things to really help the world?

some guy who had invented a mass chicken slaughtering machine that picked up chickens by their feet and dragged their heads through electrified water

I'm pretty sure this is a standard way of killing poultry as it is. I remember a few years ago there was a TV documentary, where they went into a turkey processing plant with a hidden camera and got lots of footage of incompletely-electrocuted turkeys being fed into machines.

I can't really imagine a human version, and certainly don't want to.

Noone knows if/when there will/would be a pandemic, or how softened a virus it would be after the necessary mutations. If it's anything like the 1918 pandemic I hope we can selforganise quickly around effective prevention of contagion: multiplying by 1.1 in every generation is bad enough, multiplying it by 1.5 would be worse, and so on. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avian_influenza http://www.fluwikie.com http://www.promedmail.org http://avianflu.typepad.com etc etc etc

@Mike B.

Ah that makes much more sense. That is very scary indeed then. One wonders why anyone would be dumb enough to do this, and why their government is dumb enough to allow it to occur.

@Alex

Well, my initial post may have been a bit histrionic, but I think I was waving the bloody sheet for a good reason. One thing seems clear: Amantadine is no longer helpful to people because of ignorance and profit motive. Progress may sometimes be linked to greed, but so is disaster. Check out these links for more solid info. And thanks for the correction.


Bird Flu Drug Rendered Useless - Washington Post

Wikipedia on Amantadine


@Alex.

One more thing. You should take some of what I say with a grain of salt, because I proudly announce my abhorrence of the Chinese government and classical Chinese arrogance. I think they are both abominations upon our planet. The only thing I despise more is American arrogance and the Bush administration.

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