Joi Ito's conversation with the living web.

In Marc's response to my response to Russell Beattie's comments on moblogging he talks about "Shared Reviews servers can house moblogging reports on various resturants, movies, clubs, museums, art galleries and any meatspace location."

So there is another very important part of this "location thing." Servers should be distributed too. You should be able to talk to a local server. A server in your restaurant, billboard, vending machine, car. Local servers can be higher bandwith and can have lots of cool local features. You can leverage things like bluetooth and IR on devices that don't talk location very well. This decentralization is important and relates in a weird way to Dave and Evan's discussions about RSS aggregation. So what if you had RSS aggregators where you had to physically be there to see stuff. You had to be able to physically get into a nightclub before you could see the news feed for what the club members were doing... It sounds backwards to what the Net is about, but I think that there are some applications. It definitely helps on the privacy security issue if certain kinds of information are stored only locally in servers that you trust.


I have to agree with Russell Beattie. Of course everyone sees a lot of benefits in mobile Internet, but I wonder if forcing the title "blog" doesn't just hide many of the possibilities that are not usually connected with "bloging" from our next-new-cool-thing radar. It seems like a few years ago when every web-based application, great or not so great, was being called an ASP, or B2B. Now, although many things could still be considered ASPs and B2B, we have outgrown the labeling phase and can see them for their own unique value, or lack thereof.

You had to be able to physically get into a nightclub before you could see the news feed for what the club members were doing... It sounds backwards to what the Net is about, but I think that there are some applications

I have to admit that I don't spend much time in clubs, so I don't know if they are full of people sending email to each other on their phones, but I know that any club I walk into and find a bunch of people posting to a "blog", as I know it, is not a club I am likely to frequent. I can think of some good uses for being connected while you're gittin' down, the simplest of which would just be to let your friends know where you are in the club, or to rally all your girlfriends when a group of hottie guys walks in. However, I think to label this "blogging" actually detracts from it's perceived value as a unique application because it is shadowed by all the other things a "blog" (under one of the current definitions) is more useful for.

To sum up, I think the Internet is for communication, and a blog is one form of communication on the Internet, but not all forms of communication on the Internet are blogs. I don't know where the border-line is, but until "blog" has a more standardized defenition agreed upon by all, I think a lot of people will be confused about what a "moblog" is and what it's good for. As a non mobile owner I know I am.

Hmmm... Interesting point Kevin. I guess when I was really excited by the Internet, everything looked like part of the Net. Similarly, all microcontent mangement open standard systems kind of look like blogs to me. Maybe it's my problem.

As for night clubs. Most clubs that I have hung out in in Tokyo have mailing lists, web pages, terminals in the clubs and lots of action going on online. I think the rave scene is pretty networked as well. Lots of people in clubs exchanging phone numbers, arranging meetings, pick-up times for raves, etc. Highly networked closed communities with lots of location dependence...

Well, what would you call it then?

I wouldn't go so far to say it is anyone's "problem", I just never think of "microcontent mangement open standard systems" when I think of blogs, even if it is one. Of course I have only been "blogging" since April, and even then, most of what I do is post pictures of my birds for mom and three other readers. Which probably doesn't even qualify as a blog in some peoples definition.

I may be old fashioned, but I would refer to some of the networking you mentioned above as "mailing lists" and "web pages". Of course if the web-pages were updates of clubbing related news and comments, I would probably concede that it is a blog. As for arranging pick-up times and exchanging phone numbers, I do all that online right now (from my old-fashioned desktop)... but not on my blog. I use email and instant messenger. I have friends who keep an online calendar with events' locations and times, but it's not really on their blog, and is not really meant for discussion and communication of ideas, so much as it is for organizing their life and keeping everyone in sync.

When all is said and done, if calling it a blog helps get people excited about it and helps bring ideas to fruitation, that's great. I don't care about nit-picking and it doesn't bother me either way at all. I just think that a lot of people, including myself, already have some concept of what a blog is, and although it's far from impossible to stretch that definition, starting a discussion about mobile communication technologies / microcontent mangement open standard systems totally free from that box may help stimulate ideas more freely.

As for what to call it, heck, I don't even know what I would be naming... how about mmoss? as in "Hay man, are you mmosser too?" and "Mmossing is taking Japan by storm".

Seems like microcontent servers have a special value... I predict we'll see more of them.

The reason is that you or somebody you trust has to at least goto a place once in order to pick out the important details... Broadcasting the knowledge more widely is not really helpful until after the evaluation process.

Also, doesn't knowledge just augments the world? not like VRML or say money - it isn't trying to replace it.

Muir Woods for example might let people annotate the trees - and that information just augments the trees - a widely disseminated version of the Muir Woods annotation might have some value but it wouldn't really capture the sense of being there.

Actually - there is precedent for this - this structure at burning man was a compelling example: was covered in letters to lost friends and family - and was geolocal in a way that wouldn't really have been very effectively broadcast outside of the domain.

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